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The serial# on both gun and barrel is 9644 The barrel lenth is 30 inches. The markings on the underside of the barrels is 4 and (what looks like an curved 1) and H.
Hello, I have a KNICKERBOCKER 12ga, double barrel that I have no info on and want to ask. On the left side of the gun it is marked KNICKERBOCKER, and on the right side it says; AMERICAN GUN Co.
By the way, the odd name Knickerbocker was derived from the Knickerbocker Gun Club, A very prestigious gun club in ( I believe, could be wrong ) in upstate New York. Best I can do, others?
American Gun Company 'Knickerbocker' Double Barrel 12 Gauge Shotgun, Wallhanger Or Parts Gun. Serial Number 170984, all matching. FFL Required.
Best I can do, others? American Gun Company was one of the many names under which guns produced by Crescent Firearms Co. Crescent guns were inexpensive, but reasonably well made. They started up around 1890 and were absorbed by J. Stevens Arms & Tool Co. About 1932; Stevens was later bought by Savage, but the current Savage company has only name connection with the earlier firm and has no records. Since Crescent manufacture spanned the period of conversion to smokeless powder, you should either provide good pictures or, better, take the gun to a gunsmith to have it checked for safety before firing it.
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He say that H & D Folsom a very large wholesale and retail sporting goods dealer located in New York City made the guns because they owned Crescent Fire Arms Company and made that claim in their catalogs. I say that Crescent Fire Arms Company made the guns in their factory/plant located in Norwich,CT. We both agree that Folsom owned Crescent, they bought the company in 1893 and sold it in 1930.
Like any other machine 80+ years old, parts are where you find them. Your local gunsmith can probably find wood that will fit or can be made to fit.
I always wondered about, but never had taken the time to find out any info on it. I do appreciate all the info on your reply! And I know absolutly not to even let the thought of shooting it cross my mind.I do value all my body parts! So, do you think it has any value to it.or maybe to a collector, just out of curiosity? Thank you very much for the info on it!
These numbers also apply to the hundreds of Tradename guns produced by Crescent and sold by Folsom. Total production numbers are based on Vorisek’s estimates. The Model O Hammer Double was introduced in 1897 and remained in production until about 1931 with serial numbers from 001 to 630,000 or about 18,500 per year. Early models were marked “H&D FOLSOM ARMS CO. 1915 labeled the hammer double “American Gun Co., Machine Made Hammer Gun”. In 1924 they were called “Crescent Fire Arms Co.” guns. It is likely that production was less after the “Panic of 1907”, during and immediately after World War I, and much less toward the end of the series.
These Crescent and American guns were also sold in bulk to 'the trade' marked with virtually any name the buyers requested. The records were destroyed, supposedly in a WW-II paper drive. The late Joe Vorisek studied these guns for years, and put together an estimated serial number chronology, but I'm currantly travelling, and don't have my copy with me. A Damascus barre Knickerboker would be from the early 1900s. This ad from 1905 -- This from H & D Folsom Arms Co.
There was a gun factory in Norwich, Conn., that was owned by H&D Folsom Arms Co., 314 Broadway, New York City, from about 1893 to 1930. They made a lot of very low priced shotguns for H&D Folsom to market under the American Gun Co. And the Crescent Fire Arms Co. Generally the American Gun Co. Doubles had coil springs while the Crescents had a bent piece of spring wire making the very cheapest possible V-Spring. The single barrels made under both company names were called Victor -- 'Victor Special', No.
More than 65,000 guns were made before the model was discontinued in 1946. * “The Ithaca Gun Company From the Beginning” by Walter Claude Snyder *“ The Ithaca Gun Company From the Beginning” by Walter Claude Snyder.
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Jack Answer Response: I have a Remington 870 Wingmaster which I purchased as a finantially desparate college student in 1962 - I hunted with it in sleet, rain, snow and fair weather. I drug it through the mud sneaking up on ducks. Never has it misfunctioned. Now I hear that Remington has stooped to importing Baikals and selling in under the name 'Spartan'.
(and the advise)!!! Any gun has some value. Can be low but has value even if it's just sentimental Looking at the photo of your gun, I would say that it is in fair condition and would be worth some where in the neighborhood of $75 to $100. It can be restored but the cost might exceed the value of the gun. I always advise not to shoot these old guns because I can't examine them for condition but the ones made later in the time period can be fired if in good mechanical condition and with the appropriate ammo. • The Firearms Forum is on online community for all gun enthusiasts.
Thank you very much for the info on it! (and the advise)!!! Any gun has some value. Can be low but has value even if it's just sentimental Looking at the photo of your gun, I would say that it is in fair condition and would be worth some where in the neighborhood of $75 to $100. It can be restored but the cost might exceed the value of the gun. I always advise not to shoot these old guns because I can't examine them for condition but the ones made later in the time period can be fired if in good mechanical condition and with the appropriate ammo. • The Firearms Forum is on online community for all gun enthusiasts.
Sad.I really question that you have seen 'numerous' guns bearing the names of high integrity quality manufacturers like Browning fail. I have hunted with passion for 50 years and have never witnessed any of these fail. I know that it must happen on occasion but my experience tells me that this is rare. On the other hand Scheels salesman in Sioux Falls told me that they have quit handeling Baikal because of such a high rate of return and related function problems - he guessed it was at least ten percent. Another gun shop verified this. These are guys that know guns up one side and down the other. This is reality, not based on what I wish to be true.
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Cilley and Foster each held several firearms patents, and both were highly qualified in firearms design and manufacture. Production began with single shot tip-up shotguns that had an external side hammer. Double barrel shotgun production was started in 1891. In 1893, they began making bicycle chains, and that same year, H&D Folsom took over the company's financial control. Early in the 1890s, Crescent built a rifle that resembled the Remington No. A very rare Crescent was the.410 bore shotgun pistol, which was introduced in the 1920s. In 1929, N.R.
I say that Crescent Fire Arms Company made the guns in their factory/plant located in Norwich,CT. We both agree that Folsom owned Crescent, they bought the company in 1893 and sold it in 1930. Crescent made guns with the KNICKERBOCKER name until 1915. After that they were made by the Stevens Arms & Tool Company. Crescent was the biggest maker ever of 'Trade Brand Name' shotguns making over 2,000,000 shotguns using over 450 known names. Folsom owned Crescent and what ever Folsom wanted, Crescent made and what they wanted was a lot of inexpensive (read cheap) shotguns fast.
AMERICAN GUN CO. Firearms were manufactured by Crescent Firearms Co. And distributed by H. Crescent produced moderate cost guns under nearly 100 different brand names. A brief history of Crescent- CRESCENT FIRE ARMS CO. & CRESCENT-DAVIS ARMS CO.
This strategy was implemented in the early months of 1916 with the purchase of the Lefever Arms Company in Syracuse, New York. * “The Ithaca Gun Company From the Beginning” by Walter Claude Snyder • *The Ithaca Mag-10 was designed by James Tollinger & introduced in 1974 at a cost of $424.95. The gun was only available with a full-choke 52-inch barrel. By 1979, a Deluxe Grade at $549.95 and a Supreme Grade at $649.95 were available. By 1985 the Supreme Grade was $1,124. A Standard Vent Rib model with tubes was a new feature that year.
Don't be afraid to buy one! Answer I completely disagree with the guy who said he would rather have a Baikal than a Browning. Polish the parts - he's got to be kidding. This is an admission of poor craftsmanship to begin with. Reblue it - I can't believe what I'm readimg. Heck, one might as well get milling tools and make the gun from scratch. I would rather have a Browning on whick all the bluing was worn off, the stock was scarred and worn and had been shot 20,000 times, than a wagon load of Baikals.
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The Grade XL900 had a larger group of options. The Grade XL300 Standard was priced at $179.95; the Grade XL900 Standard Grade was $204.95 All Ithaca-SKB guns were discontinued by 1978. * “The Ithaca Gun Company From the Beginning” by Walter Claude Snyder • *IMPORTED AND DISTRIBUTED BY ITHACA GUN COMPANY In 1975, an Ithaca-SKB Century Trap was introduced. It was still in the 1974 catalogue, Selling at $464.95 The 1976 Catalogue lists an Ithaca-SKB Century II at $599.95 Neither model was catalogued in 1978. * “The Ithaca Gun Company From the Beginning” by Walter Claude Snyder • *IMPORTED AND DISTRIBUTED BY ITHACA GUN COMPANY The Ithaca-SKB Grades 500 in Field model and 600 in Trap and Skeet models, initially in 12 Gauge, were introduced in 1966. The Grade 500 was priced at $215.95, the Grade 600 at $259.95. Both models have single selective triggers and automatic ejectors.
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What we can say is take the gun gun to a good qualified gunsmith for a hands on examination and if he says it's in a shootable condition, then yes but using only appropriate ammunition.
Crescent Firearms did make some short-barrelled shotguns, but they were single-shot. God only knows how many old doubles have been cut down over the years, a lot with faked-up 'Wells Fargo' markings have surfaced.
A superposed made in 1970 would probably have been made overseas, as American craftsmanship had priced itself out of the market but for the very rich. If it's Japanese made, Miroku or others, you've got a gem. (Check proof marks for kanji, etc.) If it's Spanish made, it's a pig in a poke; some really good guns come from there, but their metallurgy was suspect in the postwar period in the more economic varieties. If Italian made, another possible gem. Unlikely that the Turks were exporting o/u's in the 70s, though they make some good ones, and Russia was still Commie back then, so Sears Roebuck would probably have not been trading with them, though two barrel shotguns (side by side and o/u) were the only permissable firearm for tens of thousands of Igors in the Street. And they made a lot of them. Hunting was still a recognized activity under the commissars.
One interesting thing on my shotgun is that every mating part has the serial # stamped on it. (a 4 digit #) I really like my old Hopkins & Allen, it has the external hammers to fire it. One of the hammers does not lock correctly, you have to pull the trigger forward for that hammer to get it to lock. I think a spring completes that task inside the gun normally, but mine has a broken one.
* “The Ithaca Gun Company From the Beginning” by Walter Claude Snyder • *This gun was introduced in 12 gauge in 1963, in 20 gauge in 1964, and in.410 caliber in 1966. In 1967, a slug gun with rifle sights, called the Buckbuster was introduced.
They were not designed for modern high pressure smokeless powder and have been known to blow up when fired with modern ammo. Please before you try to shoot the gun have it checked out by a competent gunsmith. As far as making a stock, I've made a few, all for single barrels.
If it has large side-mounted hammers it probably also has laminated steel barrels and should be placed over the mantle and cleaned occasionally. As either a useable shotgun or a wall decoration, a single shot will bring from $35 to $90 and a double from $100 to $250, depending on condition. Of course if it is so rusted worn and broken that it is useful only as a tomato stake or in factory-new condition, it will fall outside those ranges. Yes, it's worth something. These were among the best of the American made double barrel shotguns.